Question:
2011, horrible year for stocks?
anonymous
2011-12-08 14:25:14 UTC
I thought stocks were on the rebound back at the end of 2010, so I loaded up on financials, energy, technology--hell I even threw in to renewable energy. WOW. All sectors plunged straight south almost to the gates of hell themselves. I dare say that 2011 was like a fool's paradise for investing, don't you?
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underexposed...
2011-12-08 15:23:42 UTC
not all sectors plunged and certainly not all stocks...in fact many companies are at pre-2008 crash highs.



If your investments plunged 60% or more...then you are not either paying attention to your investments or have no skills to do so.



Personally I doubt things are going to get better in at least the first part of 2012...especially for your financial sector stocks.



2011 started great until about March with that Japanese nuclear power disaster. It certainly has been a salting out of the good versus the bad companies...sounds like you elected the bad side of the coin.



Difficult to make money in this market, but it has not been as bad as the 2008 crash....yet anyway.
anonymous
2011-12-08 15:01:18 UTC
Nope, I'm up in the mid teens, YTD.



All sectors didn't plunge and, perhaps, more importantly, the price you pay matters most.



I'm going to guess that you got hit with the triple whammy:



(1) Bought pieces rather than the whole (perhaps based on a flawed premise). The SPY is positive YTD, just. And up just a bit more over the last 52 weeks.



(2) Paid too much. Buying on upswings or near 52 week highs is never a good idea for short term plays (one year is a short term trade). If you can't capture at least a 10-20% discount in a volatile market, you are better off waiting to buy.



(3) Buying the wrong sectors. Why financial and technology for heavens sake? No one thinks those sectors are working. For a "rebound" catch you would normally buy stuff that is temporarily down, not stuff that is dead. "All sectors" and, more importantly, all stocks at any price are not down this year.



I bought big slugs of PM, MO, XOM, and VIG at lows in the last 52 weeks. They account for the majority of my trading gain in my "buy and hold" trading portfolio.



(Most of my portfolio is not traded)



My speculative port is currently down in the 10% range, but that isn't shocking, rare, or based on trades from last year at this time (it was largely in cash into the spring).



My oil trade there is down 3.73% as of close today. A little surprising given the current price of oil -- but since I tend to buy the kind of "odd" things (this is not XOM, btw) that get undervalued and since I don't expect a full payday for at least another 3 months, I'm not feeling like a fool.



My speculative gold trade is only 50% established. It's down 0.73% right now. It needs to go red by a good bit more for me to buy more.



My "biggest losers" at the moment are big bets (fully placed now) in the value category. Extremely high dividend payers with exposure to horrible sectors: mortgages, Euroland, and volatility exposure. The very definition of "risk on." I would rather be buying now (at lower prices), but I can't say I didn't know I might be buying too soon. I still think I am right...at least I am being paid 10% (weighted average) to wait.
I Like Turtles
2011-12-08 14:29:57 UTC
Renewable energy, huh? Welcome to Ouch City, population you.



I stayed away from renewable energy, but I cashed out (seriously I did this) a week before the big increase in October - I went from 70% equities to about 30%. The train left without me. Now I'm waiting for a pullback to get back in. I hate rooting against the market but a pullback is inevitable.



If 2011 proved anything, it is that this is a range bound market. It is vitally important to buy on dips and sell on good days. Also, I'm staying away from growth stocks for the most part and sticking with dividend payers.
Jim Z
2011-12-08 17:31:40 UTC
As you say 2011 has been a terrible year for investing or trading. I have recently changed my whole strategy. I am sitting on defensive stocks suggested by the "experts" in 2010 oil, agriculture, consumables, pharmacies, ALL down. My friend bought dividend paying stocks....all down. I have just recently gone to short term and day trading strategy. I have spoke against day trading for years. I am somewhat saavy in technical analysis, and this seems to be my latest strategy for this evoironment, and it seems to be working. If you don't know technical analysis, don't try it.
JoeyV
2011-12-08 14:28:33 UTC
You must be pretty young. The stock market is about flat for the year. That's your definition of the "gates of hell"?



Edit: All your stocks are down 60% or more on the year and yet you own INTC. INTC is up like 20% on the year. Anyway, if you are down 60% on each of your stocks you are an absolutely terrible stock picker and should just buy index ETF's.
Eddie W
2011-12-08 18:36:51 UTC
I won't call you a poor stock picker. But I would say your shares are distributed differently. You own more shares in the losers and less shares in winners. In terms of dollar distribution, they maybe very even. Stock prices differ from one to another. Of course if you own IBM & WMT also, you'd have far less problem.



Watch out for your portfolios, if you are a long term investor, the technology stocks are inappropriate.
nice
2016-09-18 11:16:56 UTC
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Guru Hank
2011-12-08 14:27:57 UTC
Not really. I bought Gold.


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